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Why Chisora and Haye are a couple of Haytemakers

By Martin ‘the Brain’ Potter (formerly of the Boxing Clever podcast)

In the aftermath of the Haye – Chisora press conference brawl, the knowing smirk on Vitali Klitschko’s face said it all; what a pair of idiotic clowns these two British heavyweight world title wannabes are. Both Dereck Chisora and David Haye were soundly beaten in their respective bouts with Vitali and Wladimir – following classless pre-fight antics towards the dignified champions – yet here they were arguing over who should get the next crack. The answer of course, in a sane boxing universe, should be neither. If fighters were rated on trash talk and even trashier behaviour then Haye and Chisora would be flying high in the pound for pound ratings, with the mundane Ukrainian brothers K languishing in mediocrity. Fortunately boxing is not quite in that place yet, but with Haye and Chisora trying to drag it there, I take a look at the protagonists in this sorry story…

First up let’s consider David Haye. This is a talented fighter whose career, if I’m being hyper critical, could be described as one long publicity stunt punctuated by a few decent performances. Such is the warmth of the talk that emits from Haye’s big mouth, I’m certain he could inflate a fleet of hot air balloons. The only thing bigger than Haye’s mouth is his ego. On Saturday the combined might of said mouth and ego were in full effect, with Haye  turning up at a press conference that he had no reason to be at, trying to bag a fight (with Vitali) he has no right to get. The irony is that instead of talking himself into a fight (his tried and tested method); it seems that Haye has now fought himself out of one.

If Haye had put as much effort into his fight with Wladimir as he does with hyperbole, then maybe he would warrant a fight with Vitali. The fact is that Haye’s last performance was poor, especially when weighed against his pre fight promises. Haye then pretended to retire (a sham designed to save face and a cynical attempt to try to force another Klitschko fight) and in light of these things I believe that if he wants a rematch he should earn it with his fists by fighting some other contenders (in the ring!), not by spouting his mouth (it’s getting boring David!)

The saving grace for Haye in the whole brawl fiasco is that despite his history of crass comments and pre fight stunts, he has never been involved in a violent incident like this previously. The same can not be said for Del Boy…

To use the title of a well-known film, Dereck Chisora has a ‘history of violence’ (although maybe ‘one flew over the cuckoos nest’ would be more appropriate). A conviction for a violent altercation with a girlfriend, a boxing ban for biting an opponent, trying to incite both Vitali (with the slap) and Wladimir (with the spit) and now this – it would appear that all is not ‘luvvly jubbly’ in Del Boy’s head.

In some respects I feel for Chisora… Ok, hear me out… For the past 18 months he has been treated like a disposable plaything by the Klitschko brothers. One minute a fight’s on, then it’s off, then on, then off and then on again. The mighty Klitschko machine chewed him up and spat him out – no wonder he was slightly bitter. Whilst the Klitschko brothers could certainly teach both Chisora and Haye some manners, they could also throw in some lessons on how to use far more subtle, but just as effective, gamesmanship. Chisora, a man with a hair-trigger temper, was always going to react badly when the pressure was on – that is exactly what happened.

The real big shame for Del Boy though is that although he handled the out of ring shenanigans extremely badly, his stock as a boxer should be at an all time high following a brave, committed performance that (in my opinion) put Haye’s lacklustre effort against Wlad to shame. But anything achieved in the ring by Del Boy on Saturday night is sadly outweighed by everything he did out of it (and in it, if you count the spitting incident). His stock as a professional and as a man has fallen faster and harder than a Larry Holmes drop kick!

The behaviour of Haye and Chisora was reprehensible, but does it really warrant the indignant moral outrage from middle class Mail readers who wouldn’t know a boxing ring from a Hula Hoop? Saturday’s events were not a boxing problem or a true reflection of the sport I love, they were just two macho idiots fuelled by ego and adrenalin. Yes it was bad, yes it was distasteful and yes, I have little time for these men, but life time bans? Banning boxing? Really?

Was John Prescott banned from politics when he punched a protester? Were the houses of parliament torn down when greedy politicians were caught out claiming for money that belonged to taxpayers, all the while telling said taxpayers to tighten their belts? Was any one jailed for invading Iraq and killing thousands on the premise of a lie?! Sorry to get all political, but the Chisora – Haye brawl needs perspective – it was two men caught up in the heat of the moment having a fight. It wasn’t big, it wasn’t clever and both should be punished, but within reason.

Many promoters have come out and said they would not promote a Haye against Chisora fight. Many promoters are not always entirely honest. Whilst David Haye and Dereck Chisora have dragged the name of boxing into the gutter, they have made it (and themselves) front page news. A Chisora – Haye fight might be clouded in controversy should it ever happen (for the record, I don’t think it will) but it would also be clouded in cash. Vitali Klitschko may have had a knowing smirk on his face in Munich, but if Chisora and Haye do fight (in the ring) then I think it will be a British promoter of the not entirely honest variety who has the last laugh…

You can hear more boxing thoughts from me on Twitter @theboxingbrain. You can also catch the last episode, featuring more Haye – Chisora talk (and all previous episodes), of the Boxing Clever podcast at http://www.boxingclever.libsyn.com/ or on iTunes.

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By Ralph Welch

On Friday morning it all seemed so unlikely, didn’t it?

The build-up to the Vitali Klitschko – Dereck Chisora clash had been somewhat low-key. The two had traded amusing barbs on niche subscription channel BoxNation, but as is often the case in a Klitschko title fight, the challenger received little credibility from the world’s media. Indeed, when sponsors are offering you large sums to put their logo on the soles of your feet, it’s hardly a confidence booster for a professional fighter.

All seemed in order for another run-of-the-mill title defence. Doubtless some scribes had their cut and paste icons ready in anticipation of another write-up bemoaning the lack of interest in boxing’s flagship division. And then came Dereck Chisora.

He arrived in Germany with a reputation as an enigmatic and volatile character. But even by his standards, the events that followed his descent from the scales at Friday’s weigh-in were truly extraordinary.

There were slaps, spit balls, brawls and verbal gunshots, either side of the most impressive performance of the Londoner’s career.

Incidentally, let’s not forget the fight. There was one – and a damn good one at that. From the first bell Chisora took the fight to the elder Klitschko. Round after round, he pursued the taller, more skilful foe and made him fight for every second of every stanza. It was a performance to be proud of.

If we’d have stopped there, it’s likely that “Del Boy” would have returned home to a muted response with a few column inches affording him mild praise for a gutsy display.

Today Chisora, along with fellow protagonist David Haye, continues to command back and front page news for his part in one of the most outrageous press conferences the sport of recent times.

Hype and handbags – the boxing business

Now there’s a standard formula to a boxing press conference confrontation: ever-increasing personal insults followed by one fighter swinging the proverbial handbag at his adversary, before being escorted away by burly security guards amidst threats of vengeance.

It’s a tried and tested recipe for hyping a fight and selling tickets. And like it or not, selling tickets is the business we’re in.

Except on this occasion the burly security guards were – incredibly – nowhere to be seen. And rather than aiming a handbag, David Haye commandeered a camera tripod and swung for the fences with the sort of aggression that was so lacking on his last visit to German shores.

Cameras and phones flashed excitedly. The footage spread around the world at a furious pace.

Every TV station, every pundit, every call-in screamed that these scenes were “not what we wanted to see in boxing”. Curious given that within hours the footage had hundreds of thousands of hits on YouTube.

Consequences

As well as facing the German police, both brawlers will be summoned before the British Boxing Board of Control to explain their actions. Despite the doomsday scenarios appearing in some of today’s papers, lifetime bans are unlikely. Chisora will most likely be fined and receive some kind of temporary suspension. Haye, having officially retired from the sport in October, is currently not under the jurisdiction of the governing body. However he’ll almost certainly be subjected to an unofficial dressing down and any future application to regain his license will be subject to more rigour.

When the dust settles and knees have jerked back into place, we should consider the wider repercussions for the sport of boxing.

Why the doom and gloom?

It may be because boxing has been relegated to the sidelines that we’ve become such sensitive souls.

There’s no denying that the sport is drifting further from the mainstream consciousness. Gone are the times when legends such as Benn, Eubank and Collins lit up the terrestrial TV screens of 20 million viewers. How we miss them. How us boxing diehards wish that others would share our passion for a sport that deserves so much more than the meagre media rations it is afforded.

Instead we seem to be constantly apologising for the occasional bad headline that boxing receives. It seems we’re only one incident away from a tidal wave of ill-informed callers to Radio 5 asking for boxing to be banned.

Why do we care? These folk will never, ever show a flicker of interest in professional pugilism. Let them be.

We live in sensational times and what happened in the unlikely location of a German press room was indeed a sensation. For some people, heavyweight boxing just got exciting. For the first time in a long time they actually cared.

Every great champion needs an adversary

Before Saturday night’s unbelievable scenes, the heavyweight scene was a barren landscape ruled by possibly the most under-appreciated champions of all time. The Klitschko brothers, deprived of credible opposition, have been reduced to plucking the best from the cruiserweight division, pawing them around the ring like a big cat toying with its prey.

Make no mistake, the Klitschko brothers are great champions, wearing their crowns with dignity and humility. But great champions need great adversaries.

A quick glance through the YouTube comments yesterday saw an avalanche of support from non-boxing fans for the Klitschko brothers to clean up the division and rid boxing of Messrs Haye and Chisora.

With some intelligent promotion this could be the most interesting few months the heavyweight division has seen for a long time. Think about it. We now have two legitimate bad guys – pilloried by every pundit, aficionado and average Joe who clicked onto YouTube – for their behaviour. According to them, boxing would be better off without the likes of Chisora and Haye – and they would pay good money to see Sheriff Klitschko run these outlaws out of Dodge.

That means tickets, TV, tear-ups and a chance for some undercard fighters to get some exposure in front of a decent audience. In my opinion at least, that’s good for boxing.

What next?

Would I like to see a repeat of Saturday night’s shenanigans? I’d argue that we were a burly security guard short of one of the best press conference we’ve seen in years.

Saturday’s scuffle wasn’t the reason people have switched off from boxing in their droves. In the early hours of Sunday morning underdog Gabriel Campillo was robbed by some appalling Texas judging for the title of Light-Heavyweight champion of the world.

It’s a moniker that Tavoris Cloud shares with at least four other combatants, depending on which of the plethora of so-called “world” titles you choose to recognise.

Trust me, boxing’s got bigger problems than two heavyweights having a 20-second dust-up at a press conference.

Besides, there’s still a way that this whole episode could end up selling a lot of tickets.

It’s the business we’re in.

 

You can follow Ralph on Twitter at @RalphWelch

I am a huge fan of the Boxing Clever podcast. I interviewed Alex and Martin last year and it seemed like the show was going from strength to strength. The interview, (which you can read here) was the first piece on Write Cross and Martin himself now writes regularly for the site. It came as a huge surprise therefore when Martin emailed me in the week to tell me that he had quit Boxing Clever. After being asked countless times why, Martin has been kind enough to give his reasons behind ending one of the most popular boxing podcasts around.  George Ogier

By Martin Potter (formerly ‘The Brain’ of the Boxing Clever podcast)

As a Boxing Clever podcast host I am on the canvas, unable to beat the count having been floored by a potent combination of my own ambitions for the show (and myself) and my former co-host’s lack of them. Ok, maybe that is a little unfair on Reidy, my good friend and the man who has talked boxing alongside me for the past two years, but following many enquiries as to why we have decided to end Boxing Clever, I have decided to write this article to set the record straight…

Both Reidy and I loved doing the show. The two of us had for years, prior to the show’s inception, stood in pubs talking / arguing boxing and boring everyone around us. To have a few thousand people listening to us on a regular basis – and seemingly enjoying it – was not something I thought would happen, but it did and I have to thank Reidy for that; Boxing Clever was his idea.

Despite us both still enjoying making the show and each other’s company – we remain great friends – there were issues with how we saw the show progressing and how it had progressed to date. I was keen for the show to go up another couple of levels and for us to potentially have a big impact on the boxing scene in the UK; I wanted the big names in British boxing and the British boxing media to be aware of the show and of us. I wanted to promote the show and possibly get some big names to do the same, thus raising the show’s profile, our profiles and getting more listeners. In the long-term – and this perhaps was a pipe dream – I wanted to be able to make some money  in the boxing media as a result of the show. Reidy didn’t quite share my vision.

I am happy to admit that in the world of boxing I am a mere pigmy – Reidy aside, I have (or certainly had) no media / boxing connections. This meant that trying to promote the show or get interviews with high-profile fighters or fight figures was extremely difficult for me. I’d spend hours sending emails, sending tweets and making calls trying to drum up interest in the show – mostly to no avail. Getting no response from people who you look up to and have spent time and money following can be demoralising. My frustrations were doubled because I knew that my co-host, Reidy, was in a position to actively promote the show and get boxing people’s attention…

Since the show began in January 2009 Reidy has, in his day job, interviewed Amir Khan (2 or 3 times), Carl Froch, David Haye (at least twice), Nathan Cleverly, James DeGale, George Groves, Audley Harrison, Frank Warren, Lennox Lewis and more. Reidy acknowledged to me on a couple of occasions that his bosses would have no problem with him mentioning the show to the fighters / fight figures that he interviewed, or even getting a couple of quotes from them for Boxing Clever. Reidy mentioned the show to exactly NONE of these people! Reidy and I discussed this issue a few times and at first he said that he wanted to keep his day job separate from

the podcast – I was not happy with this, but respected his decision – so he never mentioned his job (or full name) on the show.

Later Reidy became (very slightly) more comfortable and started to mention his job on the show. I hoped this may lead to him starting to actively promote us to the boxers / fight personalities he encountered – it didn’t! To give Reidy his due, he did get us one short appearance in his publication (although didn’t want our names mentioned in association with it), a couple of years back, and did get Steve Bunce to talk to us (20 months ago), but that was about it. There was a time, 18 months ago when Reidy knew that I was in contact with Frank Warren’s press officer, desperately trying to get us an interview for the show – I failed. Shortly afterwards Reidy, in the course of his day job, actually got a comprehensive face to face interview with Mr Warren  – he made no mention of the show (or the interview I had been eager to get) to Frank. That annoyed me given the amount of work that he knew I had put in trying to get Frank to speak to me. I let it pass.

In November of last year Reidy and I had a serious discussion about the show. I stated all of my frustrations to him (as outlined above) and he provided his explanations. Reidy said that despite his bosses being fine with him promoting the show when talking to fighters, he felt that it was not a professional thing to do. Having read things that he has said about certain celebrities, alongside the fact that he has used quotes he obtained from fighters in articles separate from his day job, I find this reason slightly hard to swallow.

Another reason for him not getting us some quotes or interviews with fighters (or even telling them about the show)  is that he felt it would ruin our objectivity and leave him somehow in their debt. I can see the logic in Reidy’s point about objectivity – a big draw of our show was that we could say what we wanted without having allegiances to anyone. However, I did not want interviews every week, I just wanted the odd one now and again with a big name in order to boost the show’s profile and attract more listeners. I would not have changed my style and would loved to have asked questions that more sycophantic boxing shows are afraid to ask – maybe that’s what frightened Reidy!

The outcome of our November chat was a compromise, but things did not change and I felt I couldn’t work on the show with Reidy any longer without it damaging our friendship – something I didn’t want to happen. It just seemed ridiculous (to me) that I, a nobody, was scrambling around trying to promote the show, when Reidy could have helped push us on in a fraction of the time, with a fraction of the effort.

I realise that this article is somewhat critical of Reidy, but I also recognise my own short comings and the fact that I can be stubborn and over ambitious. Although I don’t agree with some of his decisions, I respect the fact that Reidy stuck to his guns – he is nearly as stubborn as I am! Ultimately I guess I wanted the show to help me break into the boxing media, but Reidy didn’t need the show to do that for him and enjoyed it for what it was, which is admirable in a way.

As for the future, Reidy and I remain friends (until he reads this article!) and will produce a farewell Boxing Clever. Also I may be back in the future in a different podcasting capacity – watch this space!

Super Bantamweight: A Joy Division.

Posted: February 10, 2012 in George Ogier

The competitive sparks began to fly after an interesting weekend in the British super bantamweight division. The question is, who will emerge as the best domestic 122lb fighter.

The appeal of boxing’s smaller stars has often been a hard sell. Even the most ardent boxing fans are liable to pay the lighter weight divisions scant attention. We are at a time in boxing when  the  traditional glamour of the heavyweights is looking rather dowdy and there are few saviours on the immediate horizon. Thank heavens then for the current proliferation of talented super bantamweights currently plying their trade in the UK.

At the start of the year I profiled three young British boxers for the MirrorSport blog. Two of these fighters, Scott Quigg and Carl Frampton are on a path that will inevitably see them meet in the ring to contest the British super bantamweight title. Both men were in action over the last fortnight and it gave fans a chance to assess how the future of the division might develop.

Two weeks ago we saw a very measured performance form Belfast’s Carl Frampton. Challenging for Frampton’s Commonwealth title was Scot, Kris Hughes and it is fair to say that a simple night’s work unfolded for the champion. Hughes didn’t ever put Frampton in trouble despite being the taller man. The champion was able to walk through Hughes’ largely ineffective shots to land his own punches.

The pick of these shots was a big right hand midway through round seven that almost put Hughes out of the ring. Bellshill’s Hughes struggled to his feet in spite of efforts from his corner men to keep him down. The Scot managed to beat the count but referee Mark Green wisely called the contest off giving Frampton his twelfth win from twelve contests.

After Carl Frampton’s resounding victory, last weekend saw the return of British champion Scott Quigg. Quigg faced arguably his toughest test in the form of seasoned campaigner Jamie Arthur and it wasn’t the smooth ride that many of Quigg’s fans had anticipated.

Bury’s Quigg was defending his British title for the first time against Arthur and it was an uncharacteristically cagey start from the champion. This came to a head when Quigg was sent to the canvas for only the second time in his career. After the fight Quigg claimed that it had only been a flash knock down but the pictures suggested differently.

Despite the inconvenience of getting put down Quigg rallied magnificently to stop Jamie Arthur with a monstrous body shot in round seven. There was some confusion over the stoppage but by the time it came Quigg was in complete control. After being hit with a left hook, instead of taking a knee to recover Jamie Arthur turned his back on Quigg. Fearful of Arthur being hit again whilst not defending himself, referee Mark Green jumped in and waved the contest off.

Many people said it should have been allowed to continue. It was a title fight and each man should be afforded the best possible chance to succeed, within the limits of the rules. There is a great deal of assumption in suggesting that Quigg would have gone on to stop Arthur anyway. In this instance though it was probably the correct decision and Arthur can go on and fight again.

So where does this leave the two young tyros spearheading the domestic super bantamweight scene? Well, there is an interesting third facet to this story, an almost unmentioned element. It comes in the form of the boxing binman and former world title challenger, Rendall Munroe.

Munroe was the shining light of the UK super bantamweight division, rising through the ranks to become English, Commonwealth and European champion. Munroe then did what many fighters had avoided and travelled to Japan to face world champion, Toshiaki Nishioka. It didn’t end well for Leicester’s toughest refuse collector as he was outclassed over twelve gruelling rounds.

Unfortunately for Munroe it all went a bit downhill from there. His first fight after the Nishioka defeat was a points win over one time Kevin Mitchell victim, Andrei Isaeu for the WBA international title. Munroe failed to build on that performance though and was out of the ring for almost 6 months before labouring to a decision over another Japanese boxer, the limited Ryuta Miyagi.

Fans were beginning to wonder if we’d seen the last of Rendall Munroe. Munroe has switched to Hatton Promotions in an attempt to get his career back on track. The rebuilding process began with a first round knock out of Argentina’s Jose Saez on the Quigg v. Arthur undercard.

The result teaches us very little about Munroe’s current form and ability but it does push him back into the minds of the boxing world. Munroe is still ranked number one in Britain despite doing little to deserve it of late. During Saturday’s fight Sky’s Jim Watt stated that Munroe, “wants to show he can still keep you on the edge of your seat”. There is a compelling case to be made that Munroe very rarely did that, even when at the top of his career.

Very few people would describe Rendall Munroe as an exciting fighter and it remains to be seen whether or not he can live with this new generation of super bantamweights. There is a chance Munroe will get to prove it as a fight between himself and Scott Quigg has just been put out to purse bids by the BBB of C. What price the winner facing Carl Frampton in a unification match this autumn?

Whatever happens with the small men of British boxing you can guarantee that it  will provide more entertainment than the big boys are managing these days.

By Martin ‘The Brain’ Potter of the Boxing Clever Podcast

Greed, power, money and ambition; these are all words that can easily be associated with any big business, in any industry, in any country in the world, and the top players in any business will, rightly or wrongly, be labelled with the aforementioned words. Whilst boxing may not quite be on a par with technology and it may be pushing it to compare Frank Warren to Lord Alan Sugar, the fact remains that big time boxing equals big bucks, and there is no bigger player in British boxing promotion than Mr Warren. So why have so many headline fighters decided to leave Frank – in seemingly acrimonious circumstances – over the years?

There can be no question that Frank has any trouble in charming British boxing’s brightest prospects to his stable. His list of past clients reads like a who’s who of fighting greats from these shores; Calzaghe, Hatton, Hamed, Benn, Khan, DeGale and more. And in fairly recent events he saw off the most recent challenger to his throne, the younger and more media friendly Essex boy, Eddie Hearn, to secure the signature of George Groves. The initial charm it seems, still works.

With Frank’s initial capturing of his boxing based prey must come promises of wads of cash and world title shots and it has to be said that he does usually deliver. Over the years Frank Warren has secured world titles and helped preserve unbeaten records for many deserving – and some undeserving – fighters. He took a badly defeated Amir Khan and got him a golden chance to claim the belt against arguably the weakest champion in the division, only to be unceremoniously dumped when Golden Boy came calling. He provided James DeGale with the ideal opportunity to redeem himself following his British title losing effort against George Groves by bagging him an immediate tilt at the European belt, yet DeGale is also unhappy (ironically it seems due to a disagreement over the first defence of said European belt). Hell, Frank Warren even secured a world heavyweight title fight for Dereck Chisora, despite the fact that ‘Del Boy’ has lost two of his last three bouts (admittedly the second defeat shouldn’t have been) – Will Del dump Frank if he strikes gold?!

So if Frank Warren can get fighters to sign initially and can then deliver on his promises by delivering title shots – and presumably the money that goes with them – even when the odds are stacked against him, then the question remains; why have the likes of Calzaghe, Hatton, Khan et al left? Do they get greedy? Does Frank Warren suddenly turn from friendly fight finder to tough taskmaster?

In most of the cases mentioned I would liken the situation to a first serious relationship. Like a young couple, Frank and the fighter enjoy a honeymoon period when nothing can go wrong. However, as time wears on the fighter realises that there are other options out there and wonders if someone else could better satisfy their lust (in this case for fame and fighting, not fornicating!) There is a spat, family often get involved (especially in the cases of Hatton, Khan and Hamed), the warring couple split, and then the accusations start to fly. In some cases, like a bitter divorce, the case ends up in court and money changes hands.

As someone who values loyalty, and given the investment that Frank Warren (or indeed any promoter) makes – not just financially, but in terms of hard work, time and faith – I don’t particularly like it when a boxer who has won belts and made many thousands (or millions) decides to ditch a promoter for no apparent reason other than cold hard cash. A prime example of this would be Joe Calzaghe. Anyone who has listened to my show or read any of my articles will know that I am a massive fan of Calzaghe – a boxer whom I believe is the best Britain has ever produced. Yet despite my admiration for his achievements, I don’t think Joe was in the right to leave Warren. Although Joe was happy with Frank for well over a decade, encompassing 45 fights and numerous titles, and despite the fact that Warren stuck by him through all the injuries and pull outs, in his final bout Joe decided to ditch Frank Warren. This was seemingly for one reason and one reason only – money. Granted, Calzaghe did win a court case against Frank, but if Joe hadn’t have ditched Frank to pursue a fight with Roy Jones Junior – a man so shot that Joe had previously said he’d never fight him – then I don’t think any of the problems would have arisen in the first place.

Reading this you might think that I am totally pro Warren and pro promoters in general; this is not strictly the case. To get to the top (and stay there) in a business as harsh as boxing, you need to be ruthless and I’m under no illusion that Frank Warren is an angel. Indeed the common denominator – money aside – in these splits is Frank himself. Yet I can’t help thinking that as a boxer becomes more successful and gets more people whispering in his ear, the greed, ambition, hunger for power and hunger for money override any sense of loyalty. Maybe it is right that a man putting it all on the line in the ring should be able to do business outside the ring as he sees fit. But then maybe promoters like Frank Warren are also putting it all on the line, just in a different way (or perhaps in the same way, given that Frank nearly paid for his life purportedly for boxing related reasons).

Like Lord Sugar, Frank Warren is a streetwise entrepreneur who doesn’t suffer fools gladly. Unfortunately for Frank, unlike in the case of Lord Sugar, it seems to be the employees as opposed to the employer saying “You’re fired!”

To hear more boxing opinion and poor attempts at humour from ‘The Brain’ listen to the 5 star rated Boxing Clever Podcast, available on iTunes or at http://www.boxingclever.libsyn.com/ .You can also follow me on Twitter @theboxingbrain and @boxingcleverpod or you can email me at boxingcleverpodcast@gmail.com.